DNA, men and plants
Google has failed me. I know men and chimpanzees share over 98% of their DNA, but what's the % overlap for men and plants? I must have read it somewhere, becacuse I have a lingering memory that the overlap is a lot higher than you might guess owing to the sequences for basic metabolic processes.
Can anyone help?
Can anyone help?
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What also skews the numbers is whether you're counting total intracellular DNA or Chromosomal DNA. Mitochondria can account for 10% of DNA in some cases and given that their function remains the same their DNA is highly conserved.
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A lot of it depends on how one does the calculation. For instance, humans and other primates all use the same base pairs. I don't recall seeing mitochondrial and nuclear DNA lumped in together.
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(Anonymous) 2006-02-10 08:33 am (UTC)(link)* "We share approximately 30 percent of our DNA with mushrooms. (www.sportstouch.com/ArticleMaitakeMushroomandHealing.htm)"
* "Some visitors [to the Marian Koshland Science Museum of the National Academy of Sciences] might be surprised to find out that humans share 44 percent of their DNA with fruit flies, as much as 92 percent with mice and other mammals, and 18 percent with a weed. (www.sportstouch.com/ArticleMaitakeMushroomandHealing.htm)"
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re: the chimp thing (interesting despite the anti-evolution source (http://www.harunyahya.com/refuted10.php).)
A news story reported by CNN.com, entitled "Humans, chimps more different than thought," reports the following:
There are more differences between a chimpanzee and a human being than once believed, according to a new genetic study.
Biologists have long held that the genes of chimps and humans are about 98.5 percent identical. But Roy Britten, a biologist at the California Institute of Technology, said in a study published this week that a new way of comparing the genes shows that the human and chimp genetic similarity is only about 95 percent.
Britten based this on a computer program that compared 780,000 of the 3 billion base pairs in the human DNA helix with those of the chimp. He found more mismatches than earlier researchers had, and concluded that at least 3.9 percent of the DNA bases were different.
This led him to conclude that there is a fundamental genetic difference between the species of about 5 percent.1
New Scientist, a leading science magazine and a strong supporter of Darwinism, reported the following on the same subject in an article titled "Human-chimp DNA difference trebled":
We are more unique than previously thought, according to new comparisons of human and chimpanzee DNA. It has long been held that we share 98.5 per cent of our genetic material with our closest relatives. That now appears to be wrong. In fact, we share less than 95 per cent of our genetic material, a three-fold increase in the variation between us and chimps. 2
1. http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/09/24/humans.chimps.ap/index.html
2. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992833
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OT but nifty: Smithsonian Institution article on The First Farmers (http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Publications/ZooGoer/2004/4/antfarmers.cfm): ants, termites and beetles!
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Googling again: plant genetics + human + DNA (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=plant+genetics%2C+human%2C+DNA)
yields a number of very dense but promising resources.
This, for instance (http://www.thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=83) (lighter than most): Below is a table with genome size (number of base pairs), number of chromosomes, and number of genes for several species. As you can see, there is almost no connection between the size of the genome and the complexity of a plant or animal.
Species / Number of Chromosomes / Number of Genes / Size of Genome (million base pairs)
Human 46 ~25,000 3,300
Chicken 78 ~23,000 1,000
Fruit Fly 8 ~14,000 165
Butterfly ~380 unknown 124,900
Wall cress 10 ~25,000 125
Corn 20 ~59,000 2,500
Rice 24 45-56,000 441
* This list of resources in genetic mapping and linkage analysis (http://bioresearch.ac.uk/nb/c5272de5be6fc0cdf1153bbbf6ea7394.html) is as promising as anything so far. If all else fails, perhaps you could post a request for references on the bionet.genome.chromosomes (http://www.bio.net/hypermail/biochrom/) newsgroup?
* A nice introduction to genetic analysis (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/About/primer/mapping.html)here, if you need something explained in plain(ish) English.
Have you any particular plant in mind? A lot more is known about some than about others, though very few have been fully sequenced. Sequencing of the maize genome (http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/6180.html?emailID=7210), for instance, is just getting under way:
Maize is found in thousands of products in supermarkets and stores. The maize genome's 2.5 billion base pairs in 10 chromosomes make it nearly as long as the human genome, which has 2.9 billion base pairs in 23 chromosomes. When completed, maize will be the largest plant genome sequenced.
Although smaller than the human genome, the maize genome is estimated to contain approximately twice as many genes: 50,000 to 60,000 genes, while the human genome has about 26,000. The maize genome also has large repetitive stretches and regions devoid of genes that will make sequencing challenging.
* This Geocities article (http://www.geocities.com/geneinfo/facts/engineerfr.html) has a few good bits: ... plant cells are, not surprisingly, very different from those of humans. First, the nature of plant genetics makes it easier to insert and remove genes from the genome. In addition, plant seeds are accustomed to being exposed to harsh environmental conditions. Thus, plant cells can be relatively easily manipulated in the laboratory and then used to grow genetically modified crops. Genetic manipulation of some laboratory animals, such as flies and mice, is also routinely used in research.
In contrast, the technology available to manipulate human genes and embryos is not well developed. The human genome is unusually resistant to manipulation, so we currently do not have technology with allows the efficient removal and insertion of genes in human cells. Also, if it were ever to be done, human genetic engineering would have to be carried out on a zygote or very small embryo in a laboratory. Because the normal environment of a developing human embryo in the womb is very sheltered and controlled, the embryos are extremely sensitive to any handling. Currently, very small human embryos are handled in infertility clinics and in limited cases of screening for genetic disease. Even with the aid of powerful drugs and implantation of multiple embryos, the survival rate in these cases is still quite low. Given the difficulties in manipulation of human genes and the delicate nature of human embryos, our technology is far from being able to produce a genetically engineered human. ...
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It is often stated that a particular organism shares X percent of its DNA with humans. This number indicates the percentage of base pairs that are identical between the two species. Here is a list of genetic similarity to humans, with sources, where known.
These numbers were found in various secondary sources, and were likely derived from differing methodologies (such as DNA-DNA hybridization or sequence alignment) which might give different results applied to the same pair of species. Therefore, they should be regarded only as rough approximations.
Species / Similarity / Source
Human / 99.9% / quoted by U.S.A. President Clinton, Jan 2000, State of the Union address; also, Human Genome Project
[Human] / 100% / identical twins
Chimpanzee / 98.4% . sources: Americans for Medical Progress; Jon Entine in the San Francisco Examiner
[Chimpanzee] 98.7% / Richard Mural of Celera Genomics, quoted on MSNBC
Bonobo / equal to chimpanzee /
Gorilla / 98.38% / based on study of intergenic nonrepetitive DNA in Am J Hum Genet. (2001) Feb;682:444-56
Mouse / 98% / source: Americans for Medical Progress
[Mouse] / 85% / comparing all protein coding sequences, NHGRI
Dog / 95% / Jon Entine in the San Francisco Examiner
C. elegans / 74% / Jon Entine in the San Francisco Examiner
Banana / 50% / source: Americans for Medical Progress
Daffodil / 35% / Steven Rose in The Guardian 22 January 2004
(Note the varying numbers for human-mouse similarity, depending on the method of comparison used; this underlines the importance of defining "share." Note also the varying sources -- some not particularly authoritative -- for the info presented. The apparent links in the table text, btw, are not to the alleged sources, but only to Wikipedia articles on, for instance, The Grauniad.)
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(I'm amazed by the size of the genome of a butterfly! - I guess it's the need for two completely different bodies that does it)